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contemplative practice
October 2009 
Wilber and Keating on Spirit, Religion, Faith, and Transformation
Posted on Sep 18th, 2007
by 
maryw
maryw
This discussion between Ken Wilber and Father Thomas Keating was originally posted at Integral Spiritual Center -- but today I see it's been posted at YouTube! In this first video, Ken recounts several ideas presented in his book, Integral Spirituality, commenting on the stages of spiritual development and how one's interpretations of the Divine are colored by experiences during those stages; in the second video, Father Thomas responds, offering a unique definition of faith and examining the role that religion and contemplative practice can serve in the transformative process.
Wonderful comment from Keating in the second video: "Contemplative prayer will bring you to the ... state of feeling that your life as you're living it is unmanageable .... That's a triumph, not a disaster."
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Wonderful comment from Keating in the second video: "Contemplative prayer will bring you to the ... state of feeling that your life as you're living it is unmanageable .... That's a triumph, not a disaster."
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Mary, Great blog great videos thank you, if its ok I may borrow them for my blog but will bring them back in pristine condition! ;) Love that comment: “Contemplative prayer will bring you to the … state of feeling that your life as you're living it is unmanageable …. That's a triumph, not a disaster.” Kind of expalins a lot!!!! explains even, excuse my dyslexia!
You ever been to Taize?
Hi Joty –
Borrow, schmorrow – keep dividing and distributing them like the loaves and fishes …
Yes, that was kind of an aha moment when I heard Keating's comment about contemplative prayer – the words “so that's what's happened to me” went through my head!
I've never been to Taize but would love to go some day. I've participated in several Taize prayer services – and there is an exquisite one that I go to every year on the top floor of the Anaheim Convention Center, during the L.A. religious education congress in February – such sublime melodies and disarming devotions.
How about you? Have you ever visited Taize?
Mary:
Yes I was blessed at Taize by Brother Roger, a laying on of hands, two weeks before he was slain.
The atmosphere was incredible 5000 mostly young people, deep contemplation and such music, such joy.